it seems like tonight's my night for job control follies; i've had to drop modem twice, once for =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= % grlp `ziqr` ^Z^?^?^?^? =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= and once for =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= % mail bzlx ^Z bg (stopped for tty input) fg ^Z^?^?^?^? =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= (Mail version 2.17). these bugs are not fixed in 4.1c. peter honeyman