if sizeof (char*) == 4 then sizeof (int) MUST = 4 (K&R)

Richard O'Keefe ok at edai.UUCP
Tue Mar 13 09:51:52 AEST 1984


     The question about passing NULL as a parameter having been settled,
(though on p163 of the Kernighan & Ritchie book you will find two
instances of NULL being passed where (char*) was expected), there
remains another problem with the size of pointers versus the size of
'int'.  The program I was trying to make portable has a function
something like
	structp consVect(n, p)
	    long n;
	    structp p[];
	    /* build an object containing n things */
which is called in several places:
	long n = ...;
	p = consVect(n, table);
which works fine, and also:
	q = table;
	while (...) *q++ = ...;
	p = consVect(q-table, table);
WHICH LINT REJECTS.  The reason is that I declared the argument "n" to
be 'long' (which it can be on a 32-bit machine, and if the compiler
treats int as 16 bits I don't want a structure with 100,000 elements
mysteriously truncated).  However, Lint is convinced that
		pointer-pointer='int'.

     This time I decided to read Kernighan and Ritchie with the utmost
care myself before going off half-cocked, and I found that Lint has
The Book on its side: page 189 (in the "C Reference Manual, 7.4") says

	If two pointers to objects of the same type are subtracted, the
	result is converted (by division by the length of the object) to
	an INT representing the number of objects separating the pointed
	to objects.  This conversion will in general give unexpected
	results unless the pointers point to objects in the same array,
	since pointers, even to objects of the same type, do not
	necessarily differ by a multiple of the object-length.

(As an aside: while K&R p98 explicitly permits p==0 and p!=0, I can find
nothing in K&R which requires p>0 or p-(char*)0 to be defined, where
char *p;)

     There would appear to be two courses of action open to someone who
wants his C compiler for a 32-bit machine to conform to K&R.

EITHER make sizeof (int) == 2 AND ALSO make sure that no array can
contain more than 32,767 bytes (that was 'int' remember, not 'unsigned
int').  This is clearly silly.

OR make sizeof (int) big enough to hold the largest possible difference
between two char* pointers into the user's address space.  Thus if the
user's address space is 16 Mbytes, sizeof (int) has to be 4 (3 won't do,
the difference has to be POSITIVE).

     If a program is to be moved from a 16-bit machine to a 32-bit
machine, obviously differences between pointers will have been 'int'
rather than 'long', and by the book this is guaranteed safe on any
machine!  There really doesn't seem to be any way of escaping from the
conclusion that sizeof (int) == sizeof (long*).

     On pp 182-183 we find the folllowing:

	Up to three sizes of integer, declared SHORT INT, INT, and LONG
	INT, are available.  Longer integers provide no less storage
	than shorter ones, but the implementation may make either short
	integers, or long integers, or both, equivalent to plain
	integers.  >>>"Plain" integers have the natural size suggested
	by the host machine architecture; the other sizes are provided
	to meet special needs.<<<	(Emphasis mine.)

No explicit definition of "suggested by ..." is given, so we turn to
the table at the top of p182.  Now that only describes the PDP-11,
Honeywell 6000, IBM 370, and Interdata 8/32 implementations, and it
doesn't say what size a pointer is.  We can still draw the conclusion
that in this "approved" list,
	"int" has at least as many bits as a machine address.
I propose that the definition of "plain" integers should be read as

	"Plain" integers (declared by the type 'int' without modifiers)
	are the smallest size fully supported by the host architecture
	which is sufficient to represent the difference between any two
	addresses in the user's data space.  If no integer size is
	fully supported by the architecture, the smallest size supporting
	addition, subtraction, arithmetic shifts, and logical operations
	which is sufficient to represent the difference between any two
	addresses in the user's data space.

[The second sentence is meant for machines which don't fully support
multiplication and division; given the operations listed you can program
them.]

     This still leaves Lint entitled to complain about my predecessor's
passing NULL instead of (foo*)0.  While int must have enough bits to
represent any pointer, pointers are not required to be compactly
encoded.  (The lamentable PR1ME shows this.  A character pointer on the
P400 is represented by 48 bits, but one 16-bit word just holds a byte
number (i.e. 1 bit), and one bit in the remaining 32 just says whether
or not the pointer is thought to be valid (for omitted arguments), so
32 bits is all you need on the PR1ME.)  Lint is entitled to complain for
another reason too.  'int' could be LONGER than a pointer!  Oh well,
I've put casts around all the NULLs anyway.



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