UNIX PC BOF Minutes for 1990 Winter USENIX Conference (formatted)

Lenny Tropiano lenny at icus.islp.ny.us
Fri Feb 9 14:53:05 AEST 1990


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                1990 Winter USENIX: AT&T UNIX pc BOF Minutes
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                     Sponsored by ICUS Software Systems
                   Lenny Tropiano (lenny at icus.islp.ny.us)
                  Gil Kloepfer, Jr. (...!ames!limbic!gil)

                          Wednesday, June 24, 1989
                            Omni Shoreham Hotel
                                Calvert Room





            The 1990 Winter USENIX conference once again was the home
       of  the  UNIX-pc  BOF  session.   As  always,  our  thanks are
       extended to those who attended  the  BOF  for  making  it  the
       technical exchange forum that it is meant to be.  As is always
       the case, there are those who cannot make it to the conference
       for one reason or another, and we hope that this summary again
       provides you with a little insight  regarding  the  event  you
       missed.   For  those who did attend, we hope that this summary
       is something you can keep in a file on your computer somewhere
       for reference and possibly some ideas for the next BOF.

            What we tried to do, and  succeeded  to  some  extent  in
       doing,  was  to  spice-up  the  BOF  with examples of the more
       obscure or unusual capabilities which can be  exploited  using
       some  of  the  expansion  hardware.  Those who came to the BOF
       early had a unique opportunity to see  what  went-on  "behind-
       the-scenes"  during  the  BOF set-up, and took the time to ask
       questions about the demonstrations.  In Gil's  opinion,  these
       people got the most out of the demonstrations.

            The BOF opened as usual with Lenny's  electronic  artwork
       on the overhead transparencies and a summary of what was to be
       covered during the BOF.  This was:


               Hardware
                       o  ICUS 2nd drive/P5.1 upgrade
                       o  Bigger hard disks
                       o  WD2010 (seek performance)
                       o  Voice Power boards
                       o  Botton's VIDPAL
                       o  Custom UNIX pc cases
                          (Dapoz design/ICUS Design)





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               Software
                       o  "Jukebox" (Voice Power) demo
                       o  Answering Machine (Voice Power) demo
                       o  USENIX FaceSaver Display demo
                       o  MGR ("manager") demo
                       o  UNIX 3.51 FIXDISK 2.0
                       o  Public Domain (wmgr, ph, login)
                       o  "Archived" UNIX-pc Software
                       o  Alex Crain's sockets, symbolic links


               Miscellaneous
                       o  UNIX-pc Technical Newsletter
                       o  UNIX-pc Reference Manuals



            Unfortunately, what disappointed some was the  fact  that
       there  were too many things planned to be covered, and many of
       them did not get covered as completely as they were during the
       BOF in June.

            Lenny opened the discussion by making some brief comments
       regarding the status of getting the UNIX-pc kernel source code
       (no further along than before), how to obtain  the  hard  disk
       upgrade,  the  success  rate of the UNIX-pc hardware reference
       manual deal, and touched briefly on  the  WD2010  modification
       and its benefits.  All of these have been discussed on the net
       in detail, but some had some questions and this was  the  time
       to have them answered.

            The first demonstration and, perhaps, the bulk of the BOF
       was  the  port  of  the  MGR  windowing system to the UNIX-pc.
       Lenny showed how MGR was implemented on the UNIX-pc,  and  the
       various  utilities  with  which MGR comes packaged.  Among the
       more familiar MGR bells-and-whistles were the X-like clock,  a
       numeric digital clock, and a Mickey Mouse clock, as well as an
       icon editor facility.  This, again, brought-up the  proverbial
       X-port discussion, and those who wanted to know "why do I need
       MGR?"

            Discussions about porting X-windows to the UNIX-pc can be
       summarized  in  one  sentence, "X windows can be ported to the
       UNIX-pc, but we need someone to write it."  Nobody at the  BOF
       volunteered  to  port  X,  but the MGR demonstration did spark
       some additional enthusiasm about doing it.

            The second question regarding the necessity  to  use  MGR
       over, say, the current windowing system or a port of X windows
       was  a  bit  more  involved.   Gil's  one-line   answer   was,
       "...because  someone  wrote it already, and it provides a good



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       porting base to other systems."  However, this  answer  didn't
       seem  to be the answer that most of the group was looking for,
       and further discussion continued.  In general, although  there
       was  an  air  of  apprehension  about how useful MGR would be,
       there  was  a  feeling  of  awe  in  seeing  the   speed   and
       responsiveness  of  a  public-domain  windowing  system.   MGR
       definitely out-performed the current window driver in reacting
       to  menu  requests,  window  resize/move,  etc.  There are yet
       problems in the speed of the pty drivers used  to  communicate
       between MGR-windows and the operating system.  During the next
       six months, we hope to see various incarnations of MGR in  the
       works, as well as some work in porting X windows.

            During that time, Alex Crain  was  questioned  about  his
       socket  library.   He commented that there were several people
       using it currently, and they seemed to have little trouble  to
       date.

            The MGR demonstration was followed by Gil's demonstration
       of some unique (and not-so-unique) applications using the AT&T
       Voice Power speech processor board.  The  demo  began  with  a
       synthesized  speech recital of the Pledge of Allegiance with a
       crudely-drawn American flag on the display.  Funny as  it  may
       sound,  it  was  an  attempt at showing just what progress has
       been made in voice response systems over the past 7 years.

            The second voice response demonstration was an  answering
       machine  which  used the Voice Power board as the sole form of
       communication over the phone lines (ie. no tape recorders were
       used).  Simple as it sounds, the answering machine program can
       be a more complex application as it needs many voice  response
       messages to communicate with the user.  As one attendee noted,
       there were computer synthesized  messages  for  the  answering
       machine  attendant.   A  reason  for  these  messages,  as Gil
       explained, was to keep the program complexity down.   Removing
       the  synthesized  speech  would  have involved digitizing many
       digits, providing a means to parse the digits (with the proper
       inflection),  then adding the "filler" voice response messages
       to both ends of  the  recited  numbers.   Gil  noted  that  an
       interesting  "feature"  of the room where the BOF was held was
       that there were two hotel  telephone  lines.   This  made  the
       answering machine demonstration a little more realistic.

            The last voice response  demonstration  was  a  computer-
       controlled  jukebox.  The software provided a means of storing
       music in digital form recorded from a home stereo system in  a
       specialized  archive  format.   A user-interface, which looked
       much like a jukebox as would be seen in a local diner, allowed
       the  15  megabyte  archive  of  songs  recorded on a streaming
       floppy tape system to  be  retrieved  and  converted  back  to
       audible sound.



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            Of all the voice demonstrations,  the  answering  machine
       was  the  most  popular.   After  seeing  almost 75 minutes of
       demonstrations, the group decided to  break  for  10  minutes.
       During  the  break,  many  of  the  attendees took a moment to
       experiment with MGR and  the  voice  demonstrations,  and  the
       new-improved USENIX FaceSaver Display program.

            Following the break, Mark  Dapoz  discussed  how  he  re-
       organized  and  designed  the UNIX-pc cabinet improvements for
       his UNIX-pc.  Gil and Lenny also presented their ideas  for  a
       tower  cabinet,  and Mark reflected on both ideas with some of
       his design considerations and initial failures, in  the  hopes
       that  others  could  learn from his experience.  Mark's design
       goal was  to  provide  a  more  workable  cabinet  for  adding
       additional hardware and modifications, but to leave the option
       to return the cabinet to its original form if  necessary.   He
       sternly  recommended  that those planning to add multiple hard
       disks also add an additional 200 watt  supply.   He  shared  a
       story of how he overloaded his UNIX-pc supply by attempting to
       power two hard drives and several expansion  boards  at  once.
       He recommends that the two hard disks be powered by a separate
       supply, while the remainder of the stock UNIX-pc  hardware  be
       powered by the stock supply.

            A day or two before the BOF, AT&T officially released the
       long awaited FIXDISK 2.0.  Lenny summarized what was included,
       specifically  the  oddities  of  the  "metermaid"  and  3-key-
       functions.    He  did  mention that he would detail all of the
       specific changes in a future posting on USENET (which he did).
       Everyone  seemed anxious to receive their copy and try out the
       new "features" of release 3.51m.

            Next, Lenny went on to talk about  where  one  could  get
       UNIX-pc  Software.   He  mentioned  several archive sites, the
       ICUS Archives (uucp  access)  run  by  Gil  Kloepfer,  osu-cis
       Archives  (ftp/uucp  access) run by Brant Cheikes, and several
       other  ftp-able  sites.     Although   this   information   is
       frequently  posted to USENET, it was important to discuss.  As
       always there was a small  population  of  BOF  attendees  that
       didn't have USENET access.

            Finally, Lenny discussed the possibility  of  creating  a
       UNIX-pc  technical newsletter, to be distributed for a minimal
       charge on a monthly or bi-monthly basis.  The idea  seemed  to
       be  accepted  by the those attending, however it was preferred
       overall that the newsletter  be  in  electronic  format.   The
       problems  with  an electronic format would be the inability to
       include illustrations and diagrams where appropriate, and  the
       prerequisite  of  receiving  the  network  newsgroup  that the
       newsletter  was  posted  to.   Someone  mentioned  getting  an
       advertiser  or  some  sponsorship  of  the newsletter, but the



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       overall  consensus  was  that  it  would  detract   from   the
       newsletter, and make it harder to produce.

            Following the BOF, several individuals met with  Gil  and
       Lenny  to  exchange  ideas  and  software.   The after-the-BOF
       meeting continued in our  hotel  suite  (what  Gil  and  Lenny
       dubbed the "ICUS Hospitality Suite") until about 2AM, at which
       time everyone felt a need to get some sleep.

            Last, but certainly not least, special thanks go  out  to
       the  USENIX association for allowing us to hold the BOF during
       the conference, Gil Kloepfer & Lenny Tropiano for coordinating
       the BOF and demonstrations, Mark Dapoz for sharing his work he
       did with the modified UNIX-pc case, Brad Bosch  for  providing
       beta-copies  of his MGR port, Brian Botton for his work on the
       VIDPAL board which is making porting MGR and X-windows more of
       a  reality, and most of all the BOF attendees, for without you
       there would be no reason to do this!

            In closing, the BOF seemed to be a success.  However,  it
       did seem like there were too many items to cover.  In planning
       the next BOF, it would help if more people provided some input
       as to topics to be discussed, and a good format for discussing
       them.   We  would  also  appreciate  any  feedback  you   have
       regarding  how  the  BOF was presented and how appropriate you
       felt the demonstrations were to the discussions.




























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