The last I heard was that the IBM's were comparable to the bottom of the SGI line, 4D/20 with minimal graphics. -- Brent L. Bates NASA-Langley Research Center M.S. 361 Hampton, Virginia 23665-5225 (804) 864-2854 E-mail: blbates at aero4.larc.nasa.gov or blbates at aero2.larc.nasa.gov