The new key repeat delay was changed (read "broken") by Sun in some recent release. If you are running X, you can obtain relief by using the -ar1 and -ar2 flags. (Try -ar1 450) Nothing's ever late when it's measured in Programmer's Time: ++ coleman | | | | | | | | | ++ @twinsun.com BEGIN 1/2 2/3 3/4 4/5 5/6 6/7 7/8 8/9 (etc) ++ @cs.ucla.edu