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UNIX-WIZARDS Digest          Tue, 11 Dec 1990              V11#058

Today's Topics:
           Re: Jargon file v2.1.5 28 NOV 1990 -- part 1 of 6
           Re: Jargon file v2.1.5 28 NOV 1990 -- part 5 of 6
                    Re: recently created newsgroups
             Re: non-superuser chown(2)s considered harmful
                             Re: Serial I/O
       captoinfo(1M) and infocmp(1M) sources wanted. I have ftp.
             Process history under C-shell and Bourne shell
                    flaky DEUNA board on VAX 11/750
                     Re: Problems with the crontab
                        Re: gets() during signal
              The performance implications of the ISa bus
                  Re: Ok... can we switch it back now?
                         IO buses, memory waste
            Re: How do you find the symbolic links to files.
    Unix files should have both real and effective ids for files too
  Re: Now that resolver is used, mail ignores 'mailhost' in /etc/hosts
                      Re: Preventing date rollback
              Include a postscript source file into Troff

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From: Jan Mattson <janm at puckstang>
Subject: Re: Jargon file v2.1.5 28 NOV 1990 -- part 1 of 6
Date: 10 Dec 90 11:22:32 GMT
Sender: news at kuling.uucp
Organisation: CS Dept, Uppsala University, Sweden
To:       unix-wizards at sem.brl.mil

In <207 at frcs.UUCP> paul at frcs.UUCP (Paul Nash) writes:

>Thus spake eric at snark.thyrsus.com (Eric S. Raymond):

>> BUG [from telephone terminology, ``bugs in a telephone cable'', blamed
>>    for noisy lines] n. An unwanted and unintended property of a
>>    program, esp. one which causes it to malfunction. See FEATURE.

>I have heard this attributed to Rear Admiral (retd) Grace Hopper, who
>had a malfunctioning program.  The cause was traced to a fried moth in
>the back of the computer.

The use of the word "bug" to describe "unwanted and unintended" behavior
is much older than computers. Edison used it, and perhaps it's even older
than that.


--
Jan Mattsson
Computer Science student, Uppsala University, Sweden
Email: D88.Jan-Mattsson at carmen.docs.uu.se   or  janm at zorn.csd.uu.se

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From: "Darragh J. Delany" <darragh at maths.tcd.ie>
Subject: Re: Jargon file v2.1.5 28 NOV 1990 -- part 5 of 6
Date: 10 Dec 90 17:35:46 GMT
To:       unix-wizards at sem.brl.mil

In article <PCG.90Dec5162259 at odin.cs.aber.ac.uk> pcg at cs.aber.ac.uk (Piercarlo
 Grandi) writes:
}On 30 Nov 90 17:25:12 GMT, smith at sctc.com (Rick Smith) said:
}smith> A Unix hacker can't sneer at Multics. It's like sneering at your
}smith> grandad.  Sure he's a doddering wreck, but he created some pretty
}smith> fine stuff that we can still be proud of. You, for example.
}If only! A very good argument can be made that Multics is a descendant
}of Unix! You can consider Multics the grandchild of Unix.

If I remember rightly the very name Unix was a pun on Multics
which was the epitomy of what an efficient operating system
should not have been.

Darragh.

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From: "Laird J. Heal" <laird at chinet.chi.il.us>
Subject: Re: recently created newsgroups
Date: 10 Dec 90 12:55:58 GMT
To:       unix-wizards at sem.brl.mil

In article <Dec.3.01.34.46.1990.22951 at turbo.bio.net> lear at turbo.bio.net (Eliot)
 writes:
>
>The following newsgroups were created based on the guidelines in the
>last two weeks:
>
>		Dec  3  soc.culture.lebanon
>		Dec  3  rec.arts.fine
>		Dec  3  comp.sys.acorn
>		Nov 25  comp.sys.novell
>		Nov 25  comp.research.japan
>		Nov 25  sci.engr.chem
>		Nov 25  rec.games.pinball
>		Nov 25  rec.audio.car

I have been sending the mass acknowledgement and results to
news.announce.newgroups, as the guidelines suggest.  However, they have not
been posted, while I never had any problems before and they have not been