We have been experiencing the same problem here. I just got through sending a note to unix-wizards-request and info-unix-request. What gives? Cheers-- -- Al Gaspar <gaspar at almsa-1.arpa> USAMC ALMSA, ATTN: AMXAL-OW, Box 1578, St. Louis, MO 63188-1578 COMMERCIAL: (314) 263-5118 AUTOVON: 693-5118 seismo!gaspar at almsa-1.arpa