All this raises the more useful question: 1. Can the 3B2 control its outgoing DTR signal? 2. Can a tty port be opened without the incoming CD signal being high? -- Edward C. Bennett UUCP: ihnp4!cbosgd!ukma!ukecc!edward Kentucky: The state that is being dragged, kicking and screaming, into the 20th century. "Goodnight M.A."