[This line is not indented] Speaking of the CCA/EMACS issue, copyrights, etc.... If someone takes the source for a "protected" program, changes all the "nouns" (variable names...), and redistributes it as h{i,er}s, is that a no no ? What if they change for(;;)'s to while()'s. Where does one draw the line ? One of the apparently myriad Mike Williams-ae.