comp.unix.* results

Laird J. Heal laird at chinet.chi.il.us
Sat Dec 15 05:04:28 AEST 1990


The voting to replace comp.unix.internals has ended, with the result,
according to the Call for Votes, for replacing comp.unix.internals with
comp.unix.wizards.

While I thought I had tried everything to drum up the vote, no notice was
ever posted to the still-active comp.unix.wizards.  One of the very last
voters noted this and said he hardly ever looks at comp.unix.internals.
The Call For Votes was apparently garbled at some sites, although it got
here in one piece eventually.  I did mail it out to a few voters at the
beginning.  Still, in order to avoid possible later confusion, I broke
down and sent out 285 or so acknowledgements indicating how each vote
might be used.  I got a handful of responses asking to switch the choice
to one "only" or the other, or to switch it out of an "only" bucket.  Of
the fifteen or so bounced acknowledgements, most were quick to send their
own duplicate votes labeled as such.

The voting tallies for the respective categories were:

comp.unix.esoterica		61
comp.unix.esoterica only	16
comp.unix.internals		61
comp.unix.wizards	       144
comp.unix.wizards only 		19

Two tallies were to be met in order to replace comp.unix.internals.  First,
at least two-thirds of the voters (with a 100-vote margin) must indicate a
preference for a new name over comp.unix.internals.  Second, at least two-
thirds of the votes for the proposed names must be for the name indicated
by the first test.  A voter expressed a desire to select only one name in
the first stage, where the `esoterica only' or `wizards only' choice meant
"I would rather have internals than the other name".  The votes bore out
our general agreement to replace internals with only moderate disagreement
over the new name.  Many comments indicated a preference for the name voted
for, and a willingness to accept the other.

The tally of votes for comp.unix.internals against comp.unix.esoterica was
61+19=80 to 61+16+144=221
The tally of votes for comp.unix.internals against comp.unix.wizards was
61+16=77 to 61+144+19=224

so the criteria for replacing the internals group are met either way.

The choice of the new name (comp.unix.esoterica or comp.unix.wizards) ran
61+16=77 to 144+19=163

As the name comp.unix.wizards received more than twice as many votes as
the name comp.unix.esoterica, the vote passed for comp.unix.wizards.  I
will, then, send out a rmgroup message for comp.unix.internals in five
days, together with a newgroup for comp.unix.wizards and a request to
alias comp.unix.internals to comp.unix.wizards.

I personally think that our least confusing option is to put the old name
back in place - otherwise we might end up with so many variations of the
name that we might as well be dancing the tarantella.

The voters' mail addresses and choices follow. I attempted to weed out
duplicates based on user name or site!uid; since I received a few apparent
duplicates too late for acknowledgement, I have indicated them by including
both mailboxes from the respective From:  lines; I also put two optional
addresses there when someone's mailer indicated "uunet!uid" as a very bogus
return address, according to uunet!MAILER-DEMON.

			CC.MsState.Edu!fwp1 			esoterica
			MJA.FAC.CS.CMU.EDU!mja 			esoterica
			aerospace.aero.org!strauss 		wizards
			bellcore.bellcore.com!navaho!tji 	esoterica only
			cbnewsi.att.com!npl 			wizards
			cc.imperial.ac.uk!adh 			wizards
			cs.utexas.edu!lobster!siswat!buck 	wizards
			ctbilbo!ray 				wizards
			cup.portal.com!Link_-_APO 		wizards
			ks25!mark 				wizards
			parc.xerox.com!janssen 			wizards
			twitch!tjt 				wizards
			ukfca1.uk.ate.slb.com!ams 		esoterica
			uunet!t.l.hansen,att!pegasus!hansen 	wizards
			aspect!kevinc 				internals
+-----------------------------------------+-----------------+ spike.bellcore.com!jcl internals
--Robert		westford.ccur.com!rtc 			wizards
Adam Bryant		cs.bu.edu!adb 				esoterica
Adam J. Richter		ibmpa!adamj 				wizards
Admin			bram.com!root 				wizards
Alan Ballard		ucs.ubc.ca!ballard 			esoterica
Alan Strassberg		oetl1.SCF.LOCKHEED.COM!alan 		wizards
Alexander Dupuy		hudson.cs.columbia.edu!dupuy 		esoterica
Amir Plivatsky		CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU!amir			wizards only
Andy Malis		BBN.COM!malis 				wizards
Andy Richter		vuse.vanderbilt.edu!war 		wizards
Anton Rang		nexus.cs.wisc.edu!rang 			internals
Arnold Robbins		audfax!arnold 				wizards
Arnold Robbins		audiofax.com!arnold 			wizards only
Art Nicolaysen		wciu.edu!art 				esoterica
BRC system administration sparc0.brc.uconn.edu!sysadmin 	wizards
Barry Shein		world.std.com!bzs 			wizards
Ben Taylor		lccinc!bent 				wizards
Bengt Larsson		maths.lth.se!bengtl 			internals
Bernie Simon		stsci.edu!bsimon 			esoterica
Bill Carpenter		hos1cad!wjc 				wizards
Bill Phillips		contex!bill 				wizards
Bill Vermillion		bilver!bill 				wizards
Bill White		well!wjwhite 				esoterica
Bjorn Engsig		oracle.nl!bengsig 			wizards
Bj|rn Larsen		usit.uio.no!blarsen 			wizards
Blair P. Houghton	cmdnfs.intel.com!bhoughto 		wizards only
Bob Devine  26-Oct-1990 1510	cookie.enet.dec.com!devine 	wizards
Bob Manson		cis.ohio-state.edu!manson 		esoterica only
Brendan Kehoe		cs.widener.edu!brendan 			wizards
Brian Matthews		sumax.seattleu.edu!polari!6sceng!blm 	wizards
Brian Rice		mirage.rtp.dg.com!rice 			esoterica
Bruce Adler		segue.com!bruce 			internals
Bryan Cardoza		bubba.npd.novell.com!bcardoza 		internals
Cesar A Quiroz		cs.rochester.edu!quiroz 		wizards
Charles Carvalho	salt.acc.com!charles 			esoterica
Charles Shub		mumm.Colorado.EDU!cdash 		wizards only
Charlie Geyer		galton.uchicago.edu!geyer 		wizards
Chip Rosenthal		chinacat.unicom.com!chip 		wizards
Chip Salzenberg		tct!chip 				esoterica only
Chris Jones		ksr.com!clj 				esoterica only
Chris Metcalf		masala.LCS.MIT.EDU!metcalf 		wizards
Christian A Ratliff	rpi.edu!caleman 			internals
Christopher J. Calabrese ulysses.att.com!cjc 			wizards
Clive Feather		x.co.uk!clive 				esoterica only
Craig E. Ward		venera.isi.edu!cew 			wizards
Craig Harmer		veritas.com!craig 			wizards only
Curtis Yarvin		cs.brown.edu!cgy 			esoterica
Dale Farnsworth		asuvax.eas.asu.edu!mcdphx!df 		wizards
Dan Schlitt		sci.ccny.cuny.edu!dan 			wizards only
Dan Veditz		ashtate.A-T.COM!dveditz 		esoterica
Darcy L. Bowen		symmetry!bowend 			wizards
Dave Armbrust		pcssc!dma 				wizards only
Dave Cline		m1.88OPEN.ORG!dave 			internals
Dave Gagne		uunet.uu.net!ubc-cs!fs1.ee.ubc.ca!daveg wizards
Dave Gillett		pa.reuter.com!dgil 			internals
Dave Hitz		auspex!hitz 				wizards only
Dave Yearke		acsu.buffalo.edu!planck!yearke 		wizards
David C Lawrence	turing.cs.rpi.edu!tale 			internals
David Canzi	watserv1!dmcanzi,watserv1.uwaterloo.ca!dmcanzi 	esoterica
David Edelsohn		nova.npac.syr.edu!edelsohn 		internals
David H. Brierley	Galaxia.Newport.RI.US!dave 		internals
David Hayes		postoffice.smu.edu!merlin 		esoterica only
David Lamb		qucis.queensu.ca!dalamb 		internals
David Lesher		mthvax.cs.miami.edu!wb8foz 		esoterica
David Robinson		elroy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov!david 		wizards only
David Schmidt		os-d.isc-br.com!davids 			internals
David Svoboda		void!svoboda 				wizards
David Wright		stl.stc.co.uk!D.W.Wright		wizards only
Dennis Gentry		june.cs.washington.edu!dennis 		wizards
Dewey Henize		execu.com!dewey 			internals
Dick Dunn		ico.isc.com!rcd 			wizards
Don Lewis		mlb.semi.harris.com!del 		esoterica
Duncan Sinclair		cs.glasgow.ac.uk!sinclair 		wizards
Ed Anselmo		CS.YALE.EDU!anselmo-ed 			wizards
Ed Hall			rand.org!edhall 			esoterica only
Ed Hew			xenitec.on.ca!edhew 			wizards
Edward Screven		us.oracle.com!escreven 			wizards
Edward Vielmetti	math.lsa.umich.edu!emv 			internals
Eric Gisin		mks!eric 				wizards
Eric Peterson		encore.encore.com!houligan!epeterso 	esoterica only
Eugene N. Miya		wilbur.nas.nasa.gov!eugene 		internals
Florestan || Eusebius	genetics.washington.edu!nlkosuk 	internals
Frank D. Cringle	materna!fdc 				internals
Frank Korzeniewski	apple.com!well!series 			wizards
Frank Mayhar		hermes.ladc.bull.com!fmayhar 		wizards
Gary Bridgewater	proa.sv.dg.com!gary 			internals
Gary Heston (sci34hub!gary) sci34hub.sci.com!gary 		internals
George V. Reilly	cs.brown.edu!gvr 			wizards
Gil Kloepfer Jr.	limbic.ssdl.com!gil 			wizards
Gil Pilz at Eng@Banyan	banyan.banyan.com!gil 			esoterica
Gordon Baldwin		sunup.West.Sun.COM!unix20!sherpa2!gbaldwin internals
Greg A. Woods		eci386!woods 				esoterica
Greg Lindahl		astsun9.astro.Virginia.EDU!gl8f		wizards
Gregory G. Woodbury	mcnc.org!wolves.uucp!ggw 		wizards
Gregory M. Paris	rayssd.ssd.ray.com!gmp 			wizards
Gutorm Thomas Hogasen	ifi.uio.no!gutorm 			wizards
H.W.	Henry Troup	BNR.CA!HWT 				wizards
Havard Eidnes		spurv.runit.sintef.no!he 		esoterica
Heiko Blume		scuzzy.in-berlin.de!src 		wizards
Hugentobler Alain	divsun.unige.ch!alain 			wizards
Hugh M Moore		sixhub.crd.ge.com!hughM 		esoterica
Ian Kluft		uts.amdahl.com!ikluft 			internals
Ian Sergeant		saleven.saleven.oz.au!ians 		internals
Ilham			ATHENA.MIT.EDU!ilham 			wizards
Irving Wolfe		happym.wa.com!irv 			internals
J.R.Suckling		crdec7.apgea.army.mil!bobs 		wizards only
James Seidman		hsv3!jls 				internals
James Warner Adams	ucunix.san.uc.EDU!adams 		wizards
James da Silva		mimsy!jds 				esoterica
Jay Laefer		andrew.cmu.edu!jl57+ 			internals
Jay Maynard		thesis1.hsch.utexas.edu!jmaynard 	internals
Jay Plett		silence.princeton.nj.us!jay 		wizards
Jean Marie Diaz		colorful.ora.com!ambar 			esoterica
Jeff Aldrich		sunrise.Stanford.EDU!aldrich 		internals
Jeff Makey		Logicon.COM!jeff 			wizards
Jeff Wallace		scam.Berkeley.EDU!jeffw 		wizards
Jeff Wandling		unicorn.cc.wwu.edu!n8743196 		esoterica
Jerry Aguirre		olivey.ATC.Olivetti.Com!jerry 		wizards
Jesse W. Asher		dynasys!jessea 				internals
Jim Burns		prism.gatech.edu!jb107,prism!jb107	wizards
Jim Reeds		research.att.com!reeds 			wizards
Jim Waters		Neon.Stanford.EDU!waters 		wizards
Jo Are Rosland		sdata.no!joare 				esoterica
Joe Broniszewski	astph!joe 				internals
Joe Brownlee		cblph.att.com!jbr 			esoterica
Joe Saladino		uunet.UU.NET!vrdxhq!bram!joe 		wizards
Joe Smith		tardis.Tymnet.COM!jms 			esoterica only
Joel B. Levin		BBN.COM!levin 				wizards
John Allen		ncis.tis.llnl.gov!jallen 		wizards
John F. Haugh II	rpp386.cactus.org!jfh 			wizards only
John F. Woods		ksr.com!jfw 				wizards
John G. DeArmond	mathcs.emory.edu!jgd			wizards only
John G. Myers		FED.EXPRES.CS.CMU.EDU!jgm 		esoterica only
John Jay Feiler		cobalt.cco.caltech.edu!jjfeiler		wizards
John Lacey		cis.ohio-state.edu!basho!john 		internals
John Macdonald		gpu.utcs.toronto.edu!utzoo!eci386!jmm	esoterica only
John P. Nelson		genrad.com!jpn 				wizards
John Pimentel		frog!jp 				wizards
Jon J. Brewster		cs.wayne.edu!jjb 			wizards
Jon Tombs		robots.oxford.ac.uk!jon 		wizards
Jonathan Creighton	hqsun3.oracle.com!JCREIGHT.US1.oramail	wizards
Jonathan I. Kamens	pit-manager.MIT.EDU!jik 		esoterica only
Jonathan Peatfield	harlqn.co.uk!jon 			wizards
Jonathan Thornburg	mtsg.ubc.ca!Jonathan_Thornburg		esoterica
Joseph E Poplawski	fantasci!jep 				wizards
Joseph P. Sanzo		iris613.gsfc.nasa.gov!sanzo 		wizards
Joshua Osborne		eng.umd.edu!stripes 			esoterica
Karen Valentino		everexn!karen 				esoterica
Karl Heuer		ima.isc.com!karl 			internals
Karl Tombre		loria.crin.fr!tombre 			wizards
Karsisto Konsta		lehtori.tut.fi!kk102029 		wizards
Ken Lerman		stepstone.com!lerman 			internals
Kent Paul Dolan		zorch.SF-Bay.ORG!xanthian 		esoterica only
Kevin J. Jarnot		acsu.buffalo.edu!planck!sigmast!kjj	wizards
Krishnan Pillaipakkamnatt vuse.vanderbilt.edu!krish		internals
Kristoffer Eriksson	pkmab.se!ske 				internals
Kurt J. Lidl		eng.umd.edu!lidl 			esoterica
Kurt Schreiner		dfki.uni-sb.de!ks 			wizards
LCDR Michael E. Dobson	nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil!rdc30med	internals
Laird J. Heal		chinet.chi.il.us!laird 			wizards
Larry Gillespie		tessi!larry 				wizards
Larry Little		lance.tis.llnl.gov!llittle 		wizards
Larry Setlow		fqyvax.cpac.washington.edu!pjt 		wizards
Larry Wall		devvax.Jpl.Nasa.Gov!lwall 		esoterica
Lars Pensj|		myab.se!lars 				internals
Lehtim{ki Erkki		tut.fi!eal 				wizards
Les Hill		serc.cis.ufl.edu!leh 			wizards only
Liz Allen		grian.cps.altadena.ca.us!liz 		esoterica
Luc Rooijakkers		cs.kun.nl!lwj 				wizards
Luciano Mannucci	modus.sublink.org!luke 			esoterica
Maarten Litmaath	cs.vu.nl!maart 				esoterica
Magnus Olsson		castor.ldc.lu.se!DNALIB 		esoterica
Marcus J. Ranum		decuac.DEC.COM!mjr 			wizards only
Mark Adams		medicus.com!mca 			wizards
Mark Brader		sq.com!msb 				esoterica
Mark C. Henderson	RELAY.CS.NET!crl.labs.tek.com!markh	wizards
Mark M Mehl		atanasoff!mehl 				esoterica only
Mark McWiggins		intek.com!mark 				esoterica
Mark Reinhold		larch.LCS.MIT.EDU!mbr 			wizards
Martin Boening	nixdorf.de!mboening.pad,nixdorf.de!newsadm.pad	esoterica only
Mary-Anne Wolf		PWS.BULL.COM!mwolf 			esoterica
Matt Day		iconsys.icon.com!mday 			wizards
Matthew Farwell		ibmpcug.co.uk!dylan 			wizards
Micah Altman		SGI.COM!flobb4.csd.sgi.com!micah	wizards
Michael A. Petonic	dirty.csc.ti.com!mikep 			wizards only
Michael Coleman		CS.UCLA.EDU!coleman 			internals
Michael Francis Polis	andrew.cmu.edu!mp3o+ 			wizards
Michael Richardson	fts1!michael 				esoterica
Mike Brightwell		Kodak.COM!nobody 			esoterica
Mike Faber		wybbs.mi.org!sleepy 			wizards
Mike Lee		isdc00.kodak.com!i249585 		internals
Mike Northam ext 2651	tektronix.TEK.COM!fpssun.UUCP!mbn!mbn	internals
Neil W. Rickert		cs.niu.edu!rickert 			wizards
Nick Crossley		uunet.UU.NET!ccicpg!hobbit!ndjc		wizards
Nigel Gamble		uunet!modcomp!nigel			esoterica
Norman Joseph		daver.bungi.com!ditka!oglvee!norm	internals
Norman Yarvin		yale!yarvin-norman 			wizards
Ofer Inbar		chaos.cs.brandeis.edu!cos 		wizards
Osvaldo Gold		apollo.la.locus.com!osvaldo 		internals
PETER MURRAY		pucc.PRINCETON.EDU!MIAVX1.BITNET!PEMURRAY wizards
Pat Barron		orac.pgh.pa.us!pat 			wizards
Patrick Bartkus		ncrats.Atlanta.NCR.COM!bartkus 		internals
Paul E. Maisano		aaii.oz.au!pem 				esoterica
Paul L. Rowe		p4tustin!paul 				internals
Paul Pomes - UofIllinois CSO	uxc.cso.uiuc.edu!paul 		internals
Paul S R Chisholm	mtunq.att.com!psrc 			esoterica
Paul S. Sawyer		paul at unhtel.UUCP 			wizards
Paul Sutcliffe Jr.	devon.LNS.PA.US!paul 			esoterica
Paul Woodman		praxis.co.uk!woody			wizards
Paul Zeldin		synoptics.com!paulz 			internals
Paul-Andre Panon 	ucs.ubc.ca!panon 			wizards
Per Hedeland		erix.ericsson.se!per 			wizards only
Peter Desnoyers		codex!peterd 				wizards
Peter Hahn		plugh.network.com!hahn 			wizards
Peter da Silva		ficc.ferranti.com!peter 		wizards
Rajeev Menon		relay.hp.com!hpnmdla!hpsrrkm!rajeev	wizards
Ralph Clark		ttidcc.TTI.COM!clark 			wizards
Richard H. Miller	pavlov.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu!rick 		esoterica
Richard M. Mathews	devnet.la.locus.com!richard 		internals
Risto Kankkunen		cs.Helsinki.FI!kankkune 		esoterica
Rob Bernardo		mtdiablo.Concord.CA.US!rob 		esoterica
Rob McMahon		cu.warwick.ac.uk!cudcv 			wizards only
Robert A. Levene	aplcomm.jhuapl.edu!levene 		wizards
Robert Claeson		erbe.se!prc 				esoterica
Robert G. Knox		whittaker.rice.edu!knox 		esoterica
Robert Malmgren TK/DG	mvsun.ericsson.se!rom 			wizards
Robert Olson		sax.cs.uiuc.edu!olson 			wizards
Roger B.A. Klorese	mips.com!rogerk				wizards
Roger H. Brown		mstr.hgc.edu!rhb 			internals
Ron Heiby		chg.mcd.mot.com!heiby 			internals
Ron Romero		csseq!romero 				esoterica
Ron Widell		motmpl!ron 				wizards
Ronald S H Khoo		robobar.co.uk!ronald 			wizards
Ronnie Kon		boris.mindcraft.com!mindcrf!ronnie	esoterica
Ryan Waldron		aladdin!ryan 				wizards
Saul Lubkin		cs.rochester.edu!lubkin 		wizards
Scott Barman		nbc1.ge.com!scott 			wizards
Scott R. Anderson	lestat.LIMBO.MN.ORG!scott 		esoterica
Scott Schwartz		groucho.cs.psu.edu!schwartz 		wizards
Seth Breidbart		fir.Morgan.COM!sethb 			esoterica
Shannon D. Appel	ocf.Berkeley.EDU!appel 			wizards
Shawn Marier		unicorn.cc.wwu.edu!marier 		wizards
Shirley Sloper		calmasd.Prime.COM!sas 			internals
Soren Larsen		imada.dk!larsen 			internals
Staff	Tony Guzzi	brcvax.brc.uconn.edu!tony		wizards
Stefan Esser		ikp.Uni-Koeln.DE!se 			wizards
Stephen Friedl		mtndew.Tustin.CA.US!friedl 		wizards
Steve Alter		ttidca.TTI.COM!alter 			internals
Steve Clark		cme.nist.gov!clark 			esoterica
Steve McConnel		txsil.lonestar.org!steve 		esoterica
Steve Simmons		iti.org!scs 				internals
Steve Summit		ATHENA.MIT.EDU!scs 			wizards
Steven Noyd Jones	cac.washington.edu!noyd 		internals
Stuart L Labovitz	galaxy.afit.af.mil!slabovit 		esoterica
Stuart Lynne		wimsey.bc.ca!sl 			wizards
System Manager Acct.	lccinc!sysmgr 				wizards
Tad Guy			abcfd01.larc.nasa.gov!tadguy 		internals
Ted Lemon		wse.dec.com!mellon 			wizards
The Programmer Guy	bally.Bally.COM!jkimble 		wizards only
Theo Deraadt		cpsc.ucalgary.ca!deraadt 		wizards
Tim Cook		admin.viccol.edu.au!timcc 		internals
Tim Sullivan		LANL.GOV!infidel!tims 			internals
Timothy D Aanerud	CFSMO.Honeywell.COM!tima 		esoterica
Timothy VanFosson	cadfx.ccad.uiowa.edu!timv 		internals
Todd L. Masco		andrew.cmu.edu!tm2b+ 			wizards
Tom Frauenhofer		uu.psi.com!cci632!sun01!tvf 		wizards
Tom Littauer		uts.amdahl.com!littauer 		esoterica
Tom Pronk		wmt!topr 				internals
Tony L Hansen		pegasus.att.com!hansen 			wizards
Tony Russell		gargoyle.uchicago.edu!oct1!tony		wizards
Trent R. Hein		headrest.Colorado.EDU!trent 		wizards
Trevor John Thompson	mks!tj 					esoterica
Utilities acct		lccinc!utils 				wizards
VLD/VMB	Doug Gwyn	BRL.MIL!gwyn 				internals
Vasilis Prevelakis	cui.unige.ch!vp 			esoterica only
William Clare Stewart	erebus.att.com!wcs 			wizards
William G. Bunton	balkan.tnt.com!wgb 			wizards
Wilson H. Bent, Jr.	hoh-2.att.com!whb	 		esoterica
dave	David Fayegh	cs.ubc.ca!fayegh 			wizards
joe Burke		edinboro.edu!j709393b 			wizards
kevin p burke		mermaid.litle.com!kevin 		wizards
linwood.d.johnson	linwood at cbnewsk.att.com 		wizards
paj			gec-mrc.co.uk!paj 			esoterica
pri=20 Chris Halpin	mitisft!halpin 				wizards
wesley john		ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!wjohn 			esoterica



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