second thoughts on buying a 3000UX
David Kessner
david at kessner.denver.co.us
Tue Mar 5 19:55:27 AEST 1991
In article <19512 at cbmvax.commodore.com> jesup at cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup) writes:
> Also note that most all existing VGA-etc boards have a LOT of wait-
>states, so regardless of CPU/bus speed, you're card-limited. The 3000 has
>pretty efficient access to chip memory (with the 32-bit bus). It does
>need to sync to the slower bus, but I wouldn't be suprised if the bandwidth
>available to the CPU (MB/s, gfx-mem to gfx-mem) was considerably higher on
>the A3000 than on most or all VGA boards. Plus you can run the blitter in
>parallel with the CPU - even if it's slower at some things, overall throughput
>is higher (and it is faster at non-nice conditions, I suspect). Also you
>get the the rest of the display hardware (copper, etc), which makes virtual
>screens easy and very fast.
>--
>Randell Jesup, Keeper of AmigaDos, Commodore Engineering.
>{uunet|rutgers}!cbmvax!jesup, jesup at cbmvax.commodore.com BIX: rjesup
I am using X11 and Motif on a 386/25 and an ATI VGA Wonder board (faster than
most). Compred to the A3000UX, it is a DOG with Video-- although everything
else seemed faster (compiling, math, etc). I am using X11r3, but many folks
have told me that X11r4 is much faster.
The other thing to consider is that the PC's display LOOKS BETTER.
1024x768x256 is becomming normal for a Intel based UNIX box with VGA-- and it
is not interlaced! Color even. (we have yet to figure out who C= made a
B&W Xwindows. We think that EXTRA EFFORT was needed to make it B&W!)
I also just read in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware that there is a new ATI VGA Wonder
board that is 3.5 times faster than mine. Also 34010 boards are now down to
about $600, where fast SVGA boards are $300+. (Can someone tell me how much
the U of L 34010 board is expected to be?)
But the bottom line is that a VGA based X11 is BARELY fast enough on my 386/25
(I have not tried it on a 486). However, when running UNIX, display speed is
not everything since there are many other things that can be happening like
other users logged in via RS-232, CPU bound tasks (Ray tracing anyone?),
News/UUCP feeds, and the list goes on...
- David K
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